I like that pic posted by flatirondaddy here ... the pic needs to be saved, and then when I get a chance, I would love to try it out on someone, as well as have them try it out on me ... good to know both sides of the hold to fully understand how to make it the most effective. What is the name of that version of leg lock? Like the IDL and FFLL, its got some complexity and I do love the knotting up of legs by legs. Looks like it also has a couple of pain points to work on ... but won't know til that first time trial. Soon ... Soon.
I'm definitely game ! I want the fig 4 applied safe, sane, & slowly yet I want to experience multiple submissions, then switch legs & lock up the other legs ! Game to help you get it set up well, including the crossed ankles, then make me suffer !!
I loved this description by a former MF member :
:its a painful hold and if applied correctly.. the pain caused and time in the hold is all down to the victims stamina and pain threshold. ive seen a guy apply a fig4 to 2 different lads.. one lasting seconds and the other many minutes imo, makes the hold even hotter as this introduces an unknown element to this master submission hold
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its a painful hold and if applied correctly.. the pain caused and time in the hold is all down to the victims stamina and pain threshold. ive seen a guy apply a fig4 to 2 different lads.. one lasting seconds and the other many minutes imo, makes the hold even hotter as this introduces an unknown element to this master submission hold
yes, ukcyberwrestler, I do think its one of the most painful holds - debatable, of course. Most guys I've tried it on do submit in just seconds, even though I try to just ease it on gently. The movement of doing the final leg over the victim's ankle, or just above is enough for submission. One day, I'd like to find someone with a high pain threshold so I can try a variation of the fig 4 leg lock --- want to rock in tighter, and see if I can get my ankles locked under his leg like I'm doing a straight scissors ... no escape for a rolling fig 4 leg lock and certain submission. The proof is in the doing ....
I have found that not all fig4 leg locks are equal. It sounds like you may have a good one, but I will have to be the judge ;-) I lasted one minute in an Indian Deathlock. The pain almost takes your breath away–I just tried to 'go' somewhere else. Hope to meet some day and have you lock your ankles in a fig4. will be interesting for both of us.
You tempt me ... could tie your hands behind your back, then work you into all variations of this fig 4 leg lock that I feel like .... its gonna hurt! Think you need the gag and hood? Think a fig 4 leg lock is for you?
Oh man that is so incredibly hot !! I volunteer !! Loe to have you work the fig4 in several variations, as well as locking those ankles, and yes, restrained too !!!
I really believe a properly applied fig.4 can be the most painful hold and if you consider that the legs are so much bigger and muscular than the arms leg holds can be vicious. Another favorite hold is the indian death lock that can be horny sexual and can be reversed so quickly to pour the pain on the guy that locked it on. ooops I sent an x rated morphed pic of the death lock in a pro match sorry. Pete
i would love to try to last as long as i could in the hold as you take it slow and easy, increasing the pain and torment. Anyone willing to try it on me?
Great ... I want you to suffer in the hold, but I don't want you to really submit too early. Might take a little practice, but sounds like you'd Be up for it.
I'm curious about length of time one can spend in fig 4 leg lock with a "cooperative" partner. I know if pressure is applied immediately once the legs are fig 4'd, submissions come almost instantly from guys - know this first hand. First time victims are always surprised about the amount of pain the hold causes. But If we just ease on the pressure slowly, find a near submission point, hold it, learn to endure the hold ... could go for a while. 5 min? 10 min? Longer? But just as much, enjoy rolling over and over with my buddy screaming his submission all the while sustaining fig 4 hold pressure.
Even just the idea of being locked in for a god long duration, drives me crazy. As you already know from previous conversations I am game if you ever travel this way !! I think the hottest & most intense would be with my wrists tied behind my back, the variation with your ankles locked like a scissors, and a pre-agreed minimum time limit ! Then I want the same rules for your head scissors !!!
Joe
skweezhard (7 )
10/15/2021 1:18 AMI like that pic posted by flatirondaddy here ... the pic needs to be saved, and then when I get a chance, I would love to try it out on someone, as well as have them try it out on me ... good to know both sides of the hold to fully understand how to make it the most effective. What is the name of that version of leg lock? Like the IDL and FFLL, its got some complexity and I do love the knotting up of legs by legs. Looks like it also has a couple of pain points to work on ... but won't know til that first time trial. Soon ... Soon.
ultimatescissorsjobber (2)
4/15/2015 4:14 PMI'm definitely game ! I want the fig 4 applied safe, sane, & slowly yet I want to experience multiple submissions, then switch legs & lock up the other legs ! Game to help you get it set up well, including the crossed ankles, then make me suffer !!
jurandi (1)
10/31/2012 6:44 PMthis is one of the most powerful but hottest holds on wrestling. I love to give and take using this hold and other ones.
Flatirondaddy (0)
6/03/2013 4:45 PM(In reply to this)
I loved this description by a former MF member :
:its a painful hold and if applied correctly.. the pain caused and time in the hold is all down to the victims stamina and pain threshold. ive seen a guy apply a fig4 to 2 different lads.. one lasting seconds and the other many minutes imo, makes the hold even hotter as this introduces an unknown element to this master submission hold Please log in to view gallery photos.
houstonjobber (2)
6/30/2013 11:21 PM(In reply to this)
That looks hot. I would love to be in the this hold and move, anyone man enough to do it?
ukcyberwrestler (0)
10/10/2012 6:53 PMvery nice skweeze... i would love to endure that for many minutes!
ukcyberwrestler (0)
10/09/2012 3:54 PMits a painful hold and if applied correctly.. the pain caused and time in the hold is all down to the victims stamina and pain threshold. ive seen a guy apply a fig4 to 2 different lads.. one lasting seconds and the other many minutes imo, makes the hold even hotter as this introduces an unknown element to this master submission hold
skweezhard (7 )
10/10/2012 2:59 AM(In reply to this)
yes, ukcyberwrestler, I do think its one of the most painful holds - debatable, of course. Most guys I've tried it on do submit in just seconds, even though I try to just ease it on gently. The movement of doing the final leg over the victim's ankle, or just above is enough for submission. One day, I'd like to find someone with a high pain threshold so I can try a variation of the fig 4 leg lock --- want to rock in tighter, and see if I can get my ankles locked under his leg like I'm doing a straight scissors ... no escape for a rolling fig 4 leg lock and certain submission. The proof is in the doing ....
Tobias95 (0)
10/14/2021 3:27 PM(In reply to this)
Jag vill att du gör detta på mig
Stevienye71 (1)
3/17/2016 5:20 AM(In reply to this)
I would be willing to try to withhold out as long as could,
skweezhard (7 )
3/17/2016 5:47 AM(In reply to this)
It hurts, but its FUN!
like2job (0)
6/21/2013 1:53 AM(In reply to this)
I have found that not all fig4 leg locks are equal. It sounds like you may have a good one, but I will have to be the judge ;-) I lasted one minute in an Indian Deathlock. The pain almost takes your breath away–I just tried to 'go' somewhere else. Hope to meet some day and have you lock your ankles in a fig4. will be interesting for both of us.
ARGONSA1 (153)
10/25/2012 10:07 AM(In reply to this)
would love to test that new specialty of yours next time !
skweezhard (7 )
10/27/2012 10:32 AM(In reply to this)
You tempt me ... could tie your hands behind your back, then work you into all variations of this fig 4 leg lock that I feel like .... its gonna hurt! Think you need the gag and hood? Think a fig 4 leg lock is for you?
Snacks (0)
1/19/2022 9:30 PM(In reply to this)
Ok, pretty sure this post just awoke something inside me. Is there a video of this?
Tobias95 (0)
10/14/2021 3:26 PM(In reply to this)
Jag vill att du gör det på mig
ultimatescissorsjobber (2)
8/24/2015 4:07 PM(In reply to this)
Oh man that is so incredibly hot !! I volunteer !! Loe to have you work the fig4 in several variations, as well as locking those ankles, and yes, restrained too !!!
buddystl (44 )
8/24/2015 8:00 AM(In reply to this)
Volunteer!!
Flatirondaddy (0)
1/17/2013 3:10 AM(In reply to this)
I really believe a properly applied fig.4 can be the most painful hold and if you consider that the legs are so much bigger and muscular than the arms leg holds can be vicious. Another favorite hold is the indian death lock that can be horny sexual and can be reversed so quickly to pour the pain on the guy that locked it on. ooops I sent an x rated morphed pic of the death lock in a pro match sorry. Pete
ARGONSA1 (153)
11/03/2012 11:39 AM(In reply to this)
let s make it my friend ! every temptation from you is a wish from me !
houstonjobber (2)
10/21/2012 8:01 PM(In reply to this)
i would love to try to last as long as i could in the hold as you take it slow and easy, increasing the pain and torment. Anyone willing to try it on me?
skweezhard (7 )
10/01/2012 1:45 AMGreat ... I want you to suffer in the hold, but I don't want you to really submit too early. Might take a little practice, but sounds like you'd Be up for it.
musclebear2b (4)
10/10/2012 1:05 AM(In reply to this)
oh, I'm up for it! Keep me on the edge of submission as long as you can
skweezhard (7 )
9/30/2012 12:33 PMI'm curious about length of time one can spend in fig 4 leg lock with a "cooperative" partner. I know if pressure is applied immediately once the legs are fig 4'd, submissions come almost instantly from guys - know this first hand. First time victims are always surprised about the amount of pain the hold causes. But If we just ease on the pressure slowly, find a near submission point, hold it, learn to endure the hold ... could go for a while. 5 min? 10 min? Longer? But just as much, enjoy rolling over and over with my buddy screaming his submission all the while sustaining fig 4 hold pressure.
Stevienye71 (1)
3/17/2016 5:23 AM(In reply to this)
would volunteer to see how long
ultimatescissorsjobber (2)
3/16/2016 2:16 PM(In reply to this)
Even just the idea of being locked in for a god long duration, drives me crazy. As you already know from previous conversations I am game if you ever travel this way !! I think the hottest & most intense would be with my wrists tied behind my back, the variation with your ankles locked like a scissors, and a pre-agreed minimum time limit ! Then I want the same rules for your head scissors !!!
Joe
Flatirondaddy (0)
1/16/2013 11:19 PM(In reply to this)
love to compare our abilities to apply and withstand figure4's or Indian death locks Please log in to view gallery photos.
houstonjobber (2)
6/30/2013 11:23 PM(In reply to this)
I would love to be like this guy. Game?
musclebear2b (4)
10/01/2012 1:00 AM(In reply to this)
I'll take that challenge!
see how long you can keep me in it before I really give...